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Mathias (Author):

--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---*Able to set customize tab colors for the explorer panel tabs.
    * Maybe auto set tab color based on path?  so if I go into c:\picture my tab turns green.

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Maybe.. atleast the first one.


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---*New splash.. If you have the time. Low low priority (Just to make it look refresh.)

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You are reading my mind, Someone have already provided me with a new splash..


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---*Customize default background color (Menubar, toolbar, Buttonpanel, free tab area) Override the windows default "grey" background.. If possible.

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This is actually already possible. Atleast part of it. problem is that some part can not be overriden so it does not look good.
create a regvalue value under MultiCommnder section in HKCU with the name CustomPanelColor1 of type REG_SZ and insert color using HTML style.
Or for portable version add it to <mcinstall>\SessionConfig\Misc\MultiCommander.ini
Be aware. it looks ugly..


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---* Flag files and folder with different colors flags that are shown before or after the filename.. (Like you can flag mail in outlook) and then some way to select all files that has green flag set. (Not sure if the flag information should be saved between runs, and if so how. Maybe in a (ADS) Alternative Data Steams in the file..Hm but then it will not be possible to flag files on write protected volumes.

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Been thinking about something like that. But as you say.. storing the flag information in ADS is not good because then you will not be able to flag files where you do not have write permissions. Storing the flag info in a personal storage is an option. But it would be nice if multiple users browsing the same shared network folder would see the same flags. So storing the flag data in a personal storage is not good then.  Might not exists a good solution for all use cases.


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---Improve some of the icons like..
  "Show Hidden files" (Sorry I got now idea on how a icons for that should look like. Just that the current icon feels wrong)

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Exactly. How do you show a "Show hidden files" action as a picture ?? I have not come up with a good idea my self. If anyone got a good idea of how an icon like that should look like. please. let me know..


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---   Calculate Folder size (Should be a icon with a folder not a file.)

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Yes. correct..


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 ---  *new* Filter icon that can show a list f view filters to apply

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Yes.. Something like that is coming..


--- Quote from: ice-man on October 04, 2013, 10:06:40 --- (Maybe if someone that can draw can provide some icons, that would be great)

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That would be very very good. Since I can not draw at all my self.

ice-man:
I just remember a UI option that I would like.

Option to add a little extra space between the rows. If you have small icons and font it can be a bit to tight, Option that would add 2-3 px extra spacing would be nice..
(This is not a normal user settings. so maybe place settings for this under some extra Advanced tweak category.)

GrantSP:
One of the areas of this program that I really like is the button bar at the bottom. A great idea where you can easily assign your own commands to buttons. Brilliant! However the look of it is a bit "blah". No offense. Even providing the ability to resize the buttons or assign icons would make it more attractive.
If you are given an icon library that handles all the icons within the program itself as well as any extra commands that the user designs, then choosing one of those to be the button face would be good.

I imagine however that it might be a bit more of a rewrite for most of the interface to read the icons from a user defined icon library so maybe just the buttons on the bottom.

Just now as I am writing this post I was also looking at the configuration options in MC and noticed something odd.
You have too many ways to change the same sort of things and they don't always match up and produce the desired effect.

1) Configuration -- Quick Look'n'Feel Setup -- Customize -- Colors -- (choose from the list)
Too many clicks and changes of interface even within this one setting. File menu to new dialog to another new dialog and then a dropdown list.

2) Configuration -- Explorer Panel Settings -- Display or Layout of Colors (choose Display and then...) Fonts... As well as these options there is a button on the bottom of this new panel to "Import" a new scheme which loads a new dialog with another dropdown list to select a scheme.
As with 1) too many different changes in interface to edit settings: menu options to dialogs to tabbed panels to more dropdown lists and buttons.

Selecting one of those schemes changed the font colors but nothing else which meant my previous layout of the Quick Look'n'Feel setup of alternating colors now had some text with same background color. Other elements also changed to undesirable styles and there is no option to restore the layout, color or style to "factory" settings. I now have to figure out which style element was changed by which option menu.

So if I could summarize what I feel the most important UI changes you should make are:

1) Reorganize the different ways to edit all the elements onto one place from which ALL the settings are easily identified and changed. Don't have multiple ways to do the same thing for this sort of thing, it is something the user may do once in a while and doesn't need to be in a quick one click setup but it should also be presented in a unambiguous manner so as not to confuse simple users. Like me. :)
If these settings could be saved into some sort of config file then you may find users could share their settings and you might be able to include them in a list of easily defined settings, in the same way most code editors have different layout styles.

2) Pretty up the button bar with the ability to change the size and maybe adding icon support.

3) If ALL the icons, even those in the main program, were loaded from an icon library (some *.dll maybe) then users may also be able to load different libraries if so desired.
This last one is a really low issue one though. 1 and 2 really need attention in my opinion.



Mathias (Author):

--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---1) Configuration -- Quick Look'n'Feel Setup -- Customize -- Colors -- (choose from the list)
Too many clicks and changes of interface even within this one setting. File menu to new dialog to another new dialog and then a dropdown list.

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The customize dialog was there first.. But most user do not care..They only want to choose between the two main styles. CommanderStyled or WinExplorer-Style.
So the first dialog was added since most of the time that is want the user want to do. The second dialog might change a  bit. But having dropdown list is probably not removed. I don't see the problem with that. There are many too select. Dropdown list are a good UI component to use to select between many different options.


--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---2) Configuration -- Explorer Panel Settings -- Display or Layout of Colors (choose Display and then...) Fonts... As well as these options there is a button on the bottom of this new panel to "Import" a new scheme which loads a new dialog with another dropdown list to select a scheme.
As with 1) too many different changes in interface to edit settings: menu options to dialogs to tabbed panels to more dropdown lists and buttons.

Selecting one of those schemes changed the font colors but nothing else which meant my previous layout of the Quick Look'n'Feel setup of alternating colors now had some text with same background color. Other elements also changed to undesirable styles and there is no option to restore the layout, color or style to "factory" settings. I now have to figure out which style element was changed by which option menu.

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Import is to import parts of settings from a files that is "exported". So you can import just selected parts.



--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---1) Reorganize the different ways to edit all the elements onto one place from which ALL the settings are easily identified and changed. Don't have multiple ways to do the same thing for this sort of thing, it is something the user may do once in a while and doesn't need to be in a quick one click setup but it should also be presented in a unambiguous manner so as not to confuse simple users. Like me. :)

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Not sure that would work. Having all settings in one big window would be messy. and it would not work


--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---If these settings could be saved into some sort of config file then you may find users could share their settings and you might be able to include them in a list of easily defined settings, in the same way most code editors have different layout styles.

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You can export part of the settings.
Also the Quick Setup profiles is based on files in config. So it is possible to create own.
<mcinstall>\ConfigProfiles.xml
<mcinstall>\Config\CfgProfiles\*.xml
The files in CfgProfiles contains what setting to set in settings if it is selected.


--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---2) Pretty up the button bar with the ability to change the size and maybe adding icon support.

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Button panel already support font change (if you edit buttonpanel.xml manually), Icon support might be added.
Configuration option for changing font and fontsize might be added.


--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---3) If ALL the icons, even those in the main program, were loaded from an icon library (some *.dll maybe) then users may also be able to load different libraries if so desired.

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All Icons are already read from a resource dll..   MCIcons.dll

Kreator:
I agree with previous message about the bottom button panel. It isn't very important for me, but it could add some gracefulness and individuality to the interface.
What about configuration issues, I'll rejoin:

--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---1) Configuration -- Quick Look'n'Feel Setup -- Customize -- Colors -- (choose from the list)
Too many clicks and changes of interface even within this one setting. File menu to new dialog to another new dialog and then a dropdown list.
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Maybe the last dialog is unnecessary (it's possible to add those dropdown lists to the previous dialog), but the option is called Look'n'Feel, it have to change lot's of settings. Maybe it should be reworked to 3 radiobuttons and those 4 dropdown menus, which will reflect the radiobuttons' change (i.e. you choose "MC style" and 4 dropdown menus change their items to "Commander style....", if you change dropdown lists manually, radiobutton "Customize" will be active). Here's some kind of example (in attachment).

--- Quote from: GrantSP on October 09, 2013, 04:02:03 ---2) Configuration -- Explorer Panel Settings -- Display or Layout of Colors (choose Display and then...) Fonts... As well as these options there is a button on the bottom of this new panel to "Import" a new scheme which loads a new dialog with another dropdown list to select a scheme.
As with 1) too many different changes in interface to edit settings: menu options to dialogs to tabbed panels to more dropdown lists and buttons.

Selecting one of those schemes changed the font colors but nothing else which meant my previous layout of the Quick Look'n'Feel setup of alternating colors now had some text with same background color. Other elements also changed to undesirable styles and there is no option to restore the layout, color or style to "factory" settings. I now have to figure out which style element was changed by which option menu.
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I believe that the way it's made to choose tabs and then a dialog with the dropdown list is quite logical and easy to manage (it was clear to me). Maybe Core settings and panel settings should be mixed to one menu item and be shown together. Maybe it's a bit long way to click, but it's custom settings. You can do the trick from Look'n'Feel menu without opening settings at all. Most users do it that way, I guess.
I didn't use all Look'n'Feel options (I'm used to do all setting 1 by 1 in full list), I just chose WinExplorer style. But if different settings are made to colours from customization panel and from Look'n'Feel tool, it should be clear to a user what settings he's going to change with this or that button.

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