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Ulfhednar

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Invert selection
« on: March 19, 2013, 12:41:43 »
A couple of things I have noticed:-
invert selection via the quick launch icon sometimes retains 1 or more previously selected file(s).  * also can fail when I use it as an alternative or after the button click fails.

In settings->filesystem - Deselecting confirmation dialog for deleting folders that are not empty - dialog still displays.
Tried a restart but had no impact.  I will see if removing/restoring the inverse button has any effect.

& possibly a root cause/related 'error' - selection is sometimes 'sticky'.  Item remains selected even if I click away from it & I can hit 'back' & go to that previous selection 2 steps back, not 1.  This isn't consistent just occasional.  Double clicking on another item usually recovers selection focus.

This is all on W7x64. Your release 3 1360.
« Last Edit: March 19, 2013, 12:51:19 by Ulfhednar »

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2013, 13:40:49 »
invert selection via the quick launch icon sometimes retains 1 or more previously selected file(s).  * also can fail when I use it as an alternative or after the button click fails.
If you use Explorer Styled key/mouse setup it can mess with things since it always wants to select focused item.

In settings->filesystem - Deselecting confirmation dialog for deleting folders that are not empty - dialog still displays.
Tried a restart but had no impact.  I will see if removing/restoring the inverse button has any effect.
Just to work. I will check..

& possibly a root cause/related 'error' - selection is sometimes 'sticky'.  Item remains selected even if I click away from it & I can hit 'back' & go to that previous selection 2 steps back, not 1.  This isn't consistent just occasional.  Double clicking on another item usually recovers selection focus.
Not sure I understand. But some selections features works bad when using Explorer Styled mouse/key setup, because they are in conflict of each other.


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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2013, 14:15:43 »
Ok.  I think it is related to the 'explorer' style, but as I don't use commander style I'm kinda stuck.
I am trying commander style but finding there some 'other' problems of sticky/persistent selection, I may not be using it correctly of course.
When I try to inverse or revert selection I seem to be getting several groups selected.

Does the mouse config allow me to override explorer & bypass this issue?

Will play about for a while.

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2013, 15:29:05 »
Ok.  I think it is related to the 'explorer' style, but as I don't use commander style I'm kinda stuck.
I am trying commander style but finding there some 'other' problems of sticky/persistent selection, I may not be using it correctly of course.
When I try to inverse or revert selection I seem to be getting several groups selected.

Does the mouse config allow me to override explorer & bypass this issue?

Will play about for a while.
By default it will remember selections. But that can be turned off. (Explorer Panel Settings > Remember selected files/Folders when changing path)

Invert selection works for me with Windows Explorer mode.. I think you need to give me a Repo Case that I can go thou step by step do be able to see what you do and recreate it, because all this selection and stuff can be done in many different ways..

Explorer Panel Settings > Mouse Configuration  together with the "Selection Methods" settings are used to configure CommanderStyle/Explorer Style.

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #4 on: March 20, 2013, 09:55:31 »
Thanks Mathias
I found that switching between commander & explorer mode & back removed the problems.  They returned some time later.
I'm using a MS keyboard & mouse which loads drivers for special keys - so that may cause a clash.

As an example using explorer mode -   
select folder #1 open & change name of file
<back button>
select folder #4, open & copy file to opposite pane
<back button>
takes me to folder #1 not to top level of folder 4
or both folders are selected  ???

I will continue to experiment

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I've found that I can open n sub-folders & perform n operations & always have folder #1 selected when I use <back>to return  the root/start dir;
If I hit <home> & take the cursor/bar to the root path  ... in the pane, the persistent selection of folder #1 will change.

E.g.

  • .. root
    1 - a b c
    2 - d e f
    3 - g h i
    4 - j k l
    5 - m n o

Select #1 open 1 to access sub-folders abc.
Open 1b, del file; back x2
- 1 is hi-lited/selected
open 2, go to 2f, rename files; back x2
- 1 is selected, hi-lite selection on 2
open 4, go to 4k, extract files; back x2
- 1 is selected, hi-lite selection on 4
Open 3
Change pane copy fies to 3; change back to starting pane, back x2
1 selected. (Not 3)
Open 5, go to 5n; back to 5, open 5o, back x2
1 & 5 selected.
[At this point inverse selection will result in all files/folders being selected.]
Hit <home> persistent selection of 1 disappears


I turned off Remember selected files/Folders when changing path before trying this.
Hope this makes it all clear  :)
« Last Edit: March 20, 2013, 13:05:43 by Ulfhednar »

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #5 on: March 20, 2013, 12:48:47 »
I think that you should disable remember selection. (Explorer Panel Settings > Remember selected files/Folders when changing path)
Because I think that feature and jumping back to a previous location using explorer styled setup can come into conflict with each other a bit.
I will test and see if that can be fixed so it works better during Explorer Styled setup.

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2013, 12:52:35 »
Was updating as you posted...  I have tried this Remember selected files/Folders when changing path setting with no effect on this behaviour
It will probably be OK for you tho!  :D

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2013, 09:15:10 »
I have discovered that using <go up> instead of <go back> resolves this situation.
Hopefully that shows something about what the 'back' routine is doing when it has persistent selections etc.

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Re: Invert selection
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2013, 09:27:39 »
Okey..

Btw what do yo mean with "go back" ? there are many way to go back...

  Clicking on ".." item
  Pressing <- arrow button
  Pressing back button on mouse
  Pressing back button on Keyboard
  Clicking on the parent folder in the path field
  Pressing Backspace key
  Pressing "Go up" button above the path field. (guess to is the "Go Up" you  say you switch to ? )
  ... other way I forgot about..