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Ahh ok. I never really look at that. (On my way out now So can't check again now..)

I guessed it might be cached if it is reused or something, But as long as the actual content it shows is correct, Then it is not that critical.

Hi ice-man,

thanks for testing. Yes this is exactly what I want to do. This works also for me but the panel drop down list is not refreshed. Choosing  "Refresh Devices" from the panel drop down list neither refreshs. So W: is mapping to another share while the panel drop down list still shows the old (first) mapping. Only if I close MC and start it again the panel drop down list is refreshed. 

So to be sure: your panel drop down list is correctly refreshed with the new mapping? How do you map? Is your network share also a windows share?

Hmm I did not really pay that much attention to the text.. I only checked that when I browsed to W: the second time it showed me the content of the new network share.
So you mean it is only the "display" text in the dropdown is show incorrect, the actually content when going to W: is correct ?

This works for me..

Is this what you do ?

* Map network share to W:
* W: show up in MC
* Diconnect W:
* W: is removed from MC
* Map anohter network share to W:
* W: show up in MC mapped to new location

Works for me in 6.4 alpha. maybe it is already fixed ?

Beta Releases / Re: Multi Commander 6.4 Alpha
« on: July 11, 2016, 21:39:13 »
I think you need to make it more clean that you need to enable the new file scanning in that version.

Or just release a new alpha, The latest private alpha has it 'on' by default.. so that would solve that problem and it also have some of the annoying bugs fixed. :)

Feature Requests and Suggestions / Re: Donate PayPal button
« on: September 29, 2014, 07:54:15 »
I do not think user expect much extra perks for donating. It is donating after all. They are not purchase anything. The program is still free.

But maybe something simple like

1. Up to $10   - Get a your name on a contribution list on the web site
2. $11 -          - Get your name on website AND Get you name in the about dialog in the program.

And you can also add some bigger sponsors options.
$500 - Corporation Sponsors - Gets a clickable link in the statusbar of the program that say "Sponsored by Company Inc." (nothing more. No Ads texts.)
clicking it will take user to their webpage..

Feature Requests and Suggestions / Folder specific settings
« on: August 11, 2014, 18:53:07 »
An idea I got for a feature.

Windows explorer always look the the desktop.ini and you can tweak folder icon and other minor stuff for a folder by adding a desktop.ini file.

Something similar would be nice for MC. Like if MC find a mcdesktop.ini file in a folder settings in that files will override any settings you normally have.
But only as long as you are in that folder (and maybe in any subfolder to it)

It can be settings like colors, view mode, sorting , and other..
I put a mcdesktop.ini file in a folder where I got all my picture. In the mcdesktop.ini I set that view mode should be thumbnail list mode.
it should sort files by date. (no matter what it was before). and it should set background color to blue.

Beta Releases / Re: MultiCommander v4.4.1 (Alpha)
« on: August 11, 2014, 08:48:38 »
(I edited my comment above)
OK on the toolbars, I was trying to make sense of the layout being odd.

Having been stretching the panes I now do not see the cropping of the last vertical whitespace. 
I have rebooted several times since the las update so I am not sure why the layout redrawing itself saw an issue.

Altered the toolbars & restarted - the horizontal cropping of the last line reappeared.  Played with stretching the pane & it reset to allow a vertical whitespace/full display of last item line.

If the window is not large enough to fully draw the last line inside the list what did you expect would happen?  Overdraw it on the status line ? skip the last line ?
Drawing a partial line is fully normal behavior if the line does not completely fits into the list.  Just resize the window a couple of pixels in height if it is a issue.

Support and Feedback / Re: Issue with .bat and robocopy.
« on: August 11, 2014, 08:41:44 »
Mathias is correct. The command need to be run with Admin permissions since some of the parameters for robocopy uses functions that require full access0.
And it also says so in the error text  /B or /ZB parameters require "Backup and Restore Files user rights" and you need to elevate to admin before running the script
So start MC as admin before running the script or remove the /B / ZB parameter

The other errors that robocopy say are just an effect from the first error. so when fixing the first error the other errors will also go away.
ALWAYS read the error message.  The error message are your friend.

MC do not support tab groups. (If with that you mean that is should changed multiple tabs, and open new tabs if needed with the press/selection of a command)

BUT you can create that your self with script. and assigned that to a hotkey.

There was a script for that here a while ago..

Maybe he can figure out how to fix it if you can post an example with names that are sorted wrong and how they should be sorted.
I think it can be difficult for Mathias to fix this without proper test data.

Beta Releases / Re: MultiCommander v4.4.1 (Alpha)
« on: July 29, 2014, 16:05:09 »
Thumbnail Details mode look interesting. Have been missing the file information when showing thumbnails.

Possible options..

* Now thumbnails are vertical center aligned. option to vertical align them to the top of the row ?
* Smaller spacing between the detail information lines.
* Highlight the filename with bigger font and/or show it as bold.
* Dynamic row size. Now all rows are as big as the thumbnail size like 128x128, But if you have a thumbnail that are 128*32 because the picture is very wide you
will get a lots of empty white space. Using dynamic row will make the row just so big that it needs to be.
However I know this can be a bit tricky since HitTest for every mouse action must calculate form the top to the found item. (Fixed size is so much easier)

Support and Feedback / Re: Issue with .bat and robocopy.
« on: July 22, 2014, 11:12:21 »
This is getting crazy.. This should be simple to figure out.. If it works hardcode it then it should be possible to get it working

And it is working.. Took me 3 min to figure out... and all the information for getting it to run was already in this topic.

First doing a quick test you notice that RoboCopy do NOT like path to have a trailing slash ( \ at the end ) if the path is quoted.
BUT we do want to use quoted path since we do want to support spaces in the path. So we must make sure there is no \ at the end.

So what are ${sourcepath} and ${targetpath} returning ? Quick test show that they are returning a quoted path WITH trailing slash
( eg "R:\My Folder\" )

And since we know that robocopy do not like trailing slashes they need to be removed.
And that can be done using BAT scripting. and how to do that is shown in a previous post by mathias in the topic.

So instead of sending ${sourcepath} to the robocopy line we set it to a BAT script variable.
and then we do bat scripting to remove the quotes, then we remove the trailing slash, then readd quotes again
and now the "fix" path is in a BAT script valiable named SOURCE so then we use that for robocopy instead as %SOURCE%
Code: [Select]
SET SOURCE=${sourcepath}
rem Remove Quotes
rem Remove Trailing Slash
rem Add quotes again

and we do the same for ${targetpath}

A complete script will look like

Code: [Select]
SET SOURCE=${sourcepath}
rem Remove Quotes, Remove Trailing slash, Readd Quotes

SET TARGET=${targetpath}
rem Remove Quotes, Remove Trailing slash, Readd Quotes

robocopy %SOURCE% %TARGET% /TEE /MT /MIR /DCOPY:T /COPY:DAT /XD AppData /XJ /FFT /ZB /SEC /XA:SH /R:1 /W:1


And there is it..

Case closed.

Support and Feedback / Re: Issue with .bat and robocopy.
« on: July 08, 2014, 07:38:23 »
To keep it simple so you can try it on your own PC without all the extra variables.  I'm on Windows 8.1 update 1.

WORKS inside of MC

robocopy D:\scans D:\testfolder

DOES NOT WORK inside of MC  (I have D:\scans in my left pane and D:\testfolder in my right pane within MC when I run it.)

robocopy ${sourcepath} ${targetpath}

I have tried all other variables like ${forcuspath}  and others.

Still get error with entire path on the same line for SOURCE.

I do not have robocopy either. But did some quick test. and the two command lines are NOT the same

Manually entered that you say works..
Code: [Select]
robocopy D:\scans D:\testfolder
The Generated line by MC will be
Code: [Select]
robocopy "D:\scans\" "D:\testfolder\"
See. They are very different.  The generated have quotes and trailing slashes.
Maybe robocopy do not like quotes and/or trailing slashes.

And when you figure out what it is. Then you can do some bat script magic and remove the quotes or trailing slash if needed

Feature Requests and Suggestions / Vote on feature ?
« on: July 07, 2014, 14:21:49 »
Will there be a new "vote on next major feature" that you have done before ?

Support and Feedback / Re: Issue with .bat and robocopy.
« on: July 07, 2014, 14:20:51 »
First you need to figure out exactly what path you need to send to robocopy.
Then you need to compare that to the paths you get from MC.
And from that you should be able to figure out what differs and possible why it does not work.

Feature Requests and Suggestions / Re: Synchronized Browsing
« on: June 17, 2014, 15:39:01 »
Going after number of view to add a feature or not is not a good idea.. might just be you that have reloaded the page 100 times. :)

Anyway.  You can actually do sync browsing using MultiScript..

Create a command of MultiScript type and then assign a hot key to shift+return.

Code: [Select]
@var $sourceFocusPath = GetSourceFocusPath();
@var $targetPath = GetTargetPath();
@var $name = PathGetNamePart($sourceFocusPath);
@var $newTargetPath = $targetPath ^ $name;

// Make sure that the source item is a folder
if( IsFolder($sourceFocusPath) )
  // Make sure that the new target path exists and is a folder
  if(FileExists($newTargetPath) == 2)
     MC.Explorer.Goto SOURCE="{$sourceFocusPath}" TARGET="{$newTargetPath}"

Beta Releases / Re: Multi Commander 4.3 Alpha
« on: May 26, 2014, 07:09:10 »
The Portable plugin works very good for me, No issue so far

Support and Feedback / Re: high CPU usage
« on: April 16, 2014, 15:27:58 »
If you enter "dbg fslog" into the command line field and restarts MC. It will activate a FileSystem browser log in the log panel (ctrl+L)
However it is a bit chatty and very technical. But you might get some hints from it.
(type it again to turn it off )

Feature Requests and Suggestions / Re: Improved FTP support
« on: April 08, 2014, 11:29:36 »
Sorry if I'm a bit picky :)

But "sluggish" is very relative and can be referred to a lot of things with FTP.
If you really want Mathias to fix the thing you have an issue with I think you need to specify what you mean by sluggish and exactly what with FTP you want to have improved. Or he might fix something with FTP but not the thing you want to have fixed.

Support and Feedback / Re: Delete Selected Folder in Tree
« on: March 12, 2014, 15:24:33 »
are other more important stuff to do. specially if you work with a very large code base.

I'm also a developer.. and I'm just a bit curious. So If you don't mind.. How large is the code base of MC ?

Support and Feedback / Re: Delete Selected Folder in Tree
« on: March 12, 2014, 14:24:37 »
ice-man: If I want to go up two levels in the filesystem I just reach the mouse and position the mouse pointer correct and click. I do not have to press the backspace key twice.

Seriously, operating Windows without a mouse, people really do that ?
Of course not everything in windows, that would be insane. But if you do a lot of file management, Using only keys is so very much faster.  If I would use the mouse for everything my arm would have had to replaced a couple of times by now.
But that is where programs like this comes in. 

You can divide most file managers in two category of file managers. the Explorer Clones that focus on mouse and to work like Windows Explorer but to add more features. and you have the Command clones (MultiCmd, TotalCmd, NortionCmd, MidnightCmd,) that focus being able to do advanced thing things fast using the keyboard.
(Ex I can select all files of type X (many 100x files) and copy them to target Z in less then 1 sec.. with just a couple of keys.)

We all have different needs. That why there are so many different to choose from.

Support and Feedback / Re: Speed of Right Click Menu
« on: March 12, 2014, 08:18:38 »
I had some similar issue on a work computer.
For me it was some crap Symantec Enterprise antivirus thing that had a shell extension that did some weird stuff.. I disable that.

If it take a really long time. I guess that if you manage to take a dump file of MultiCommander while it is waiting for the context menu to be shown, Mathias might be able to see what it does.

See doc page about how to Create dump of hang
This might not be a real hang. But taking the dump is the same thing.
As long as the dump is creating during the wait state.

Support and Feedback / Re: Delete Selected Folder in Tree
« on: March 12, 2014, 08:10:55 »
the Folder Tree view, people really use that ?
I find it so very very unpractical and slow to use that.
But I guess if you are a mouse person you don't mind that.

For example if I want to go up two levels in the filesystem I just press the backspace key twice. I do not have to reach the mouse and position the mouse pointer correct and click.

But we are all different. And the nice part with MC is that it also allows mouse folks to use it. And I'm fine with that as long as the keyboard style does not gets crippled by it.

Beta Releases / Re: Multi Commander 4.2 Beta
« on: February 25, 2014, 13:42:44 »
ADDED - MultiFileViewer have experimental support for line filtering (grep)

It works very well for being "experimental". I already have had good use of it.
Being able to filter out lines from logfiles that are 2-300MB in memory is very fast and useful..

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