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Beta Releases / Re: Copy to zip: skip all doesn't work.
« on: May 14, 2024, 22:05:34 »
Sorry for the delayed reply Mathias. 
I did see the comment about error handling changes, so far that seems improved in speed & relevance. I should have added the crash ID above but I did send the report in.
I get a crash when trying to browse encrypted archives now, previously I would be asked for the PW - MC doesn't get to that now.  Crash  ID 1914-E114RS

This dialog & selection do not work, skip all = skip.

**whilst typing this a new build has appeared  ;D
Thanks Mathias, skip all working now, .rar with PW not working.

Something special with your rar archive ? for me it ask for pwd once. and then it unpack all files .

Support and Feedback / Re: Multi Commander stays in background
« on: May 14, 2024, 15:39:54 »
I never seen that. In what situations is it happening. Is is reproducible ?

Beta Releases / Re: Copy to zip: skip all doesn't work.
« on: May 13, 2024, 12:33:24 »
Thanks for the reply Mathias.
I was trying to sync a folder & had some matching files; dialog opens asks for input - skip overwrite etc, clicked skip all & it immediately opened the same dialog for every next matching file. I.e. skip all isn't working for me.  Using the portable MC I was able to complete the operations normally.

...& I have just tried a regular copy operation of dissimilar files & MC 3007 CTD'd, error report dialog opened & then also crashed.  ??? :o

I can use the current portable build OK. This seems to be related to this build as it is new behaior since the update. Guess I will try fresh install also.

** managed to get the error dialog to stay up, fault in MultiCommander.exe, report sent.

Yes as it say in change log for the beta.. Lots of changes around error handling. Problem is that people do not report errors.

You can now defines in advance what overwrite option you want and it will never ask you... if you select skip 'all there'. do that work ?

did it send crash report. any crash id ?

Beta Releases / Re: Copy to zip: skip all doesn't work.
« on: May 11, 2024, 18:41:01 »
Same issue but not just for archives, drive to drive copy / move also affected. v14 b3007 W11 x64

I'm not able to update anything ATM, pdf, jpg, rar, zip etc all fail with the skip all failing to persist error. Bit of a problem when trying to back up stuff....   :(
I also noticed some strange behavior with rar crashing MC under some circumstances.  Will try to repeat it & send in a report.

Is it best to revert builds or is a fix due soon?  I can use the portable! Duh!  ;D
Can you give a example when skip does all does not work. what Overwrite options is active.. "Ask" ? so it ask. or "Skip all" so it should auto skip them ?

Support and Feedback / Re: FourCC column shows nothing
« on: May 07, 2024, 13:55:04 »
MC is using Windows Property system for getting Meta data for some of the properties. And "FourCC" is one of them. So look like Windows do not support getting all meta data from .mkv files. mp4 and some other formats works.

Support and Feedback / Re: Hotkey to compare folders-advanced
« on: May 05, 2024, 09:37:39 »
You can assign a hotkey for that command.. all command you see in the menu you can assign keys for

In Keyboard customization,  select "Explorer Panel" as module.. and "Global" as category.. then at the bottom of the list you should find it

Support and Feedback / Re: Hotkey to compare folders-advanced
« on: May 01, 2024, 12:31:04 »
In the current beta for next version 14.x it will remember the settings you used last time

That path is actually not extra long, it is less then 260 characters..
BUT I think you are using the wrong command type.
you are using say you use "external" type of command.. And then you use "MC.Explorer.Goto" that is for custom commands..  External is if you want to run a external program. the entire command is to Windows to launch it.
So then you cannot use any MC specific commands link MC.Exporer.Goto and such.

So if you change type to "Custom commands" instead it should work
Or if you want it to run an external program. then just have the path there without the MC.Explorer.Goto.. then Windows will start the .pdf with the program associated with pdf

Copy using Ctrl+C and Ctrl+V then MC will not handle the copy, the copy / paste command is sent to Windows, and it handle everything. So MC is waiting for the call to windows to Paste to complete.

To bad not a Crash Dumps is sent. That is the only way to see what module in Windows that is crashing..

Hmm strange
Do you have some none standard columns enabled.. so it need to read the files to show the data for them ?
Attribute column should not cause it to download them, but if you for example have a column showing Image Size. or similar that needs to read the file content to show the data. then it might happen.

Hmm Only exe  hmm Maybe it is when it gets icon for exe file. But there should be check in that the file is a placeholder and not load it then. Hmm I will check..

Im not able to recreate that. If I access a file from onedrive folder that is a only a placeholder folder (fake file that is not synced to local) then Windows will download that file and MC can then access it. That file and not all others.
I have not seen that ALL files is getting download if you only try to access one of them.  I'm not able to recreate that scenario.

Can you create a step by step description on how to trigger it ?

Bug #1
When using 64x64 Thumbnail Mode, the 'Right-Click Menu Keyboard Key' (I have that as a special key on my Dell keyboard next to the Function Key (it's a laptop)) doesn't open the Right-Click Menu sometimes. On 96x96 Thumbnail Mode it's functional & works always in Detailed List Mode though :D . If you could fix this in a future update that'd be great !
P.S: I was able to pinpoint+replicate the issue:: It happens when the caret is on the first item 'Move To Upper (Empty Arrow) Directory' thumbnail, if you move the caret to an actual File\ Folder & then switch between Tabs, the Right-Click Menu appears ! So there's a prob /w the caret being on the first item 'Move To Upper (Empty Arrow) Directory' box initially. If you want a screenshot to demonstrate I can do so …  ;D
P.P.S: It works sometimes, doesn't work other times !  :'(
<~~ Nvm I fixed this by checking 'Show Context Menu on '..' Item" !!

Bug #2
I don't see the 'Keyboard Customization' hotkey for 'Switching Tabs': that is, I don't see the Ctrl+Tab and the Ctrl+Shift+Tab for moving backwards and forwards between Tabs listed there. I want to change the hotkey to Ctrl+Page Down and Ctrl+Page Up that's why.  :D

Bug #3
When I use the " -AutoRun=AutorunCmd" command-line parameter in the MC shortcut (to View the Full Pane), my Tabs get reset and there's only 1 tab !!  :( I have the shortcut running as Admin, maybe that has something to do with it ?
<~~ Nvm this is working too, I accidentally wrapped the [Shortcut Properties] path within double quotes —that's why it reset the Tabs !!  :D

#2 Not a bug. just an not implemented feature.
Some keys are not able to be changed. But you should be able to create a own command that call that command and assign to custom keys (unless that key is hard coded)
But the default variant will still be there too

I have been doing more tests and I have discovered that it fails by doing the following:
- Copies and movements using drag&drop within the same panel.
- Copy and move using CRTL-C & CRTL-V
These two fail quite often.

Copies and movements between different panels only fail using drag&drop.
I cannot recreate any issue with drag and drop copy.  What are special with how you do it? Something that are unique for you system.  ?
Do you drag from special device and drop on other special. ? Is it just from normal file on disk to another folder on another drive?

Beta Releases / Re: Copy to zip: skip all doesn't work.
« on: April 15, 2024, 07:44:14 »
This post is moved to Beta Version section
Since it is about the auto handing of error, and that had major changes in the Beta..

Yes Zip and some other extension do not support the new error handing yet.

Support and Feedback / Re: Delete zip (after begin scanned) bug?
« on: April 15, 2024, 07:39:46 »
The situation you describe is very unspecific.
What is long time..  What is "many files" in it..  100 ? 1000 ? 10000 ? 3 Million ?

When the zip files is deleted, MC will cleanup its internal representation of it. And if your browsed into it. All of that are cached, So if it is millions of objects that should be cleanedup, it can take a little bit of time.

Beta Releases / Re: v14.0 BETA
« on: April 13, 2024, 23:49:50 »
Thx for the new beta!

Nice feature for "File Operation Error Handing"

Miss some strings for translation. Still wip, or do I miss something?
Still beta so strings are not finalized, so not translatable yet

"still wip" ?

Any idea about what to do now?

Look like the Service accepting the crashreport might not have returned the crashid. I will fix that.. I rebuild that service a while ago so that might have broken.

What kind of copy was it ?
Did it copy anything ? or crash before it started ?  Was it normal from and to devices ? Or was it over network or something else not "common"
Like a said.. Copy / Paste and Drag and Drop are different.. Copy / Paste is handled by Windows and MC have very lite control over that.

Ok, i have anothe crash, now moving from one panel to the other using the mouse, but in the report screen don't show any ID.

 I add the windows of the crash report and the windows crash report.
Strange. Normally after it been sent it shows a crashid it got in the report system.

Beta Releases / v14.0 BETA
« on: April 02, 2024, 13:24:58 »
Biggest change is that the error handling around Fileoperations (Copy/Move/Delete) have been rewritten.

  185+ Changes

  ** Release Candidate **
 Please report any issue around the new thing likes
 Auto error handling, Scriptable Columns, Play Audio, ...

-- Build 3015 - 2024-06-11
 FIXED -  Missing updated Language packs

-- Build 3014 - 2024-06-11
 FIXED - Missing translatable text items.
 FIXED - In Overwrite dialog SKIP was in some situation handled as Skip All.
 FIXED - Code cleanup and minor fixes.

-- Build 3013 - 2024-06-06

 FIXED - Layout and language texts issue with delete dialog
 ADDED - Zip archive will now store LastAccess and Created time for each item when creating zip archive.
 FIXED - Selecting an 'OverWrite IF' option when overwriting for a Zip file, The first file was not removed from the zip. Making it show the error again.
 FIXED - Copying files from RAR sometimes did not copy ALL of the selected files.

-- Build 3012 - 2024-06-04

 FIXED - Unpacking will now show that in the title bar of progress dialog
 FIXED - Progress bar is now shown correct when transfering to/from portable device
 FIXED - If a file was skipped during a file operation, it was not always show in error report.
 FIXED - AutoOverwrite options "If" (Eg IfSizeDiffers, IfNewer,...) did not always work
 FIXED - 3 Stability fixes

-- Build 3011 - 2024-05-31

 FIXED - Issue when opening .bz2/tar.bz2 files.
 FIXED - SDK Cleanup and removed depricated functions
 FIXED - Overwrite opten Appen/Resume/Rename now works again.
 FIXED - Creating Zip that are password protected works again.
 FIXED - Issue when typing path in commandline field.
 ADDED - Support for Onedrive for Business  accounts that are connected in the local computer.

-- Build 3010 - 2024-05-24
 ADDED - Popupmenu shown when dragging file with Alt, ow got a new option if files are dropped on an exe. Run exe with drogged files as parameters
 FIXED - Entering full path with filename in commandline files, It will now go to path and set file as focus. Was broken. Now works again.
 FIXED - Option that control if link target should be shown for Symlink/Junction now works for file.
 ADDED - Option to show error report for only Skipped and Failed files. If error was handled so it was copied/moved. it will not be shown in the error report.
 ADDED - Added so all new text support the language system and can be translated.
 FIXED - Change the layout of the CopyTo Dialog. all option in the two columns have swap places.

-- Build 3009 - 2024-05-17

 ADDED - Added Column showing onedrive status for files (Experimental. not 100% yet)
 FIXED - Replace files in zip archive sometimes failed
 FIXED - Test Zip archive sometimes now works again
 FIXED - Opening rar with encrypted filenames now works again
 FIXED -  2 Stability issues

-- Build 3008 - 2024-05-14

 FIXED -  Skip All option in overwrite dialog now works again
 ADDED - 'AllowAsFileProp' Option for MultiScript. And Only script with this option can be connected in the Scriptable columns dialog.
 FIXED -  2 Stability issues
 FIXED -  SDK API Cleanup

-- Build 3007 - 2024-05-06

 FIXED - Icon Option to get associated icon or not. Had no effect. Now it works.
 FIXED - Zip handing and new error handling system
 FIXED - Delete from zip now update progress bar better
 FIXED - Delete from zip can now be aborted.
 FIXED - Error Result view now works better.
 FIXED - Issue when deleting files with protected files attributes.

-- Build 3005 - 2024-05-01

 ADDED - Pressing Ctrl+O in CopyTo Dialog moves focus to Overwrite options
 ADDED - Pressing Ctrl+R in CopyTo Dialog moves focus to Protected files options
 FIXED - Tab focus fixed in CopyTo Dialog
 FIXED - Extension interfaces cleanups
 FIXED - RAR unpack and error handling been rewritten
 FIXED - 7Zip using new error handling system

-- Build 3002 - 2024-04-23
 FIXED - Issue when unpacking Rar/7z/other that uses old error handing system

-- Build 3001 - 2024-04-22
 FIXED - 4 Stability issues

-- Build 3000 - 2024-04-22
 FIXED - Will not fetch exe icon from exe of file is in onedrive, and file is not synced to local.
 ADDED - Zip pack/unpack will use the new Auto Error handling system.
 ADDED - Dialog for 'Compare Folders Advanced' will now remember last used settings

-- Build 2999 - 2024-04-08
 ADDED - Experimental support for adding scriptable columns, Let a MultiScript fetch what should be shown in a column in the file list
 ADDED - MultiScript function "VariableDefined(<str>)" that returns 1 if text provided exists as a variable.
 FIXED - 2 Stability issues

-- Build 2997 - 2024-04-02

 CHANGE- Major rewrite of error handing of Copy/Move/Delete operations.
 ADDED - MultiDataViewer is now language aware when doing find. (Can be turned off in option for faster search)
 ADDED - Opening Zip archive with large number of files is now faster
 ADDED - Copy/Move/Delete options for auto handling errors
 ADDED - Copy/Move options for auto handle overwrite options.
 ADDED - Copy/Move/Delete options for showing error report after operation is done
 ADDED - Options for Copy/Move/Delete for System/Hidden/ReadOnly options joined to be 1 options for "Protected Files" (instead of 3)
 ADDED - Support for 64px size thumbnails
 ADDED - DataPreview templates can be updated if they are not customized.
 ADDED - Playing audio file are now shown in status bar
 ADDED - Play Audio Sample command to menu (Will jump 25% into audio file and play for 15s then stop)
 ADDED - Play audio will now try to play "mp3,wav,mp4,m4a,avi,mkv,acc,wma,wmv,asf,flac" (some are movies but it will play the audio if possible)
 ADDED - Play/Stop Audio file icon button to toolbar
 ADDED - Improvements how playing audio files works and are shown.
 ADDED - Preview template for audio files can now select to play the audio file
 FIXED - Unpacking Zip with had a space in the filename just before the ".zip" part.
         Failed to unpack since it tried to unpack into a folder of the name, and space at the end is not allowed on Windows.
 FIXED - Issue when moving tab to other side and the new active tab in the "from" panel was delayed loaded.
 FIXED - 4 Stability issues

A new Experimental feature that probably only I myself have used for is ** Scriptable Columns. **

You can now create a MultiScript that will be used to get what should be shown in a column in the file list.
Add configure Scriptable filepropertys go to Column Customization (Right click on column header)
then at the side of the available columns. there is a script button.
Use this button to create a new file property (column) and connect it with a MultiScript.

Right now there is NO RESTRICTION on what the MultiScript can do when it runs for getting Column text.
But the script will be run for EACH folder and files in the file list where the column is shown.
So, if you have a MultiScript that execute an external program. this program will be executed for all items.
And that is probably not a good idea.. So be careful what script you connect.

When connect a Column with a MultiScript you select what input and output variables in the script it should use.
The Input variable in the variable that will be added with the value of the full path to the file.
Output variable it the variable that the result will be stored in.

To be able to create and debug the script easier.
You check now check if a variable exists, and if not it can be added.
This way. You can easy test the script in ther MultiScript Debugger.

Example of script that will just show the file extension in a column.

Code: [Select]
if(IsVariableDefined("$_FILEPROP_FILEPATH") == 0)
  @var $_FILEPROP_FILEPATH = GetTargetFocusPath();

@var $ext = PathGetFileExtPart($_FILEPROP_FILEPATH);


So to test this.
 * Create new MultiScript and paste in the code above. And save it
 * Go to Customize columns (right click on column header)
 * Click on Script button to add/edit Scritable columns
 * Click New. and then select the script you created, set Name and save.. then close.
 * The new column should now be shown in the list. You can filter on Scriptible and you find it easier.
 * Add the new column to current layout
 Save and close Window

Major Changes
  • New Error Handing system for file operations (Copy/Move/Delete) (Auto handle errors and show error result after operation)
  • Scriptable Columns
  • Play Audio files

File Operation Error Handing

File operations error handing have been totally changed.. You can now configure how File Already exists error should be handle.. (Overwrite options)
and you can also configure how Protected Files should be handle.. (Files with Hidden / System or ReadOnly file attributes.)
Other errors are not auto handled. but you can enable to skip error. then it will skip when other errors happened.
And if Show Result is enabled you get a dialog showing what errors happened and how they was handle..

The thing is that MC support many different types of FileOperation.. File normal device to normal device, To virtual device, To network, To FTP and so on.
So many different situation and I'm not sure all of them work with the auto handle and auto skip on error.

So please report any issue you see. 

Yes it crashed a lot. I add you the logs in my firts post.

Could you tell me where to find the ID's of the MC crashed send to you?
No I mean a real crash dump. Normally when MC crashes it sends a crash report. and it show a CrashId after it have uploaded it for analyze. If you got this crash ID I can manually analyze the crash report,

WER report is of no use, it does not tell me where the program crash

I Cannot reproduce any issue.. can you describe exactly what you do. since there are so many way of doing copy/move in MC.
also Ctrl+C / Ctrl+V, the Copy is not handled by MC,  Copying like this. and Windows Shell will handle the copy

If it crash it does not close correctly and will not save where it was

If it crash.. Did it send a crash report ? did you get a crash id ? then I can see why it crashed.

There are commands to do this with in the command line field.

":AutoRefresh 0"  will turn off all auto refresh.. need to restart MC. and then you need to press refresh you select to refresh.. it will not monitor folder for changes..

":AutoRefresh 1" to turn it back on..

or if you temporary want to stop it for one folder..

":UnwatchFolder <folder>"

(See Application Log Ctrl+L for information it they turn on / off )

":FolderMonitor List"
To list all folders that are monitored

Support and Feedback / Re: Zip performance
« on: March 26, 2024, 20:55:28 »
If you browse into the zip.. It will scan the zip so it can show all files from the zip..
When you add files to an existing zip. the same things is happening. It needs first to scan the zip
So you can see how long time it takes to open the zip if you browse into it. it will take the same before it can start to add files into it

Support and Feedback / Re: Issue with search in MultiDataViewer
« on: March 26, 2024, 09:15:32 »
Might, maybe be fixed in version 14.x, Beta/Alpha should be available at the end of this month (march..)

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