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I made a few more experiments connecting Android tablets and mobile phones (different brands). Windows mounts their file systems with names, and indeed does not assign any drive letter, for example: "Canon EOS M", "Xperia Tablet Z" -- as opposed to: "E:", "F:", and so on. HOWEVER once mounted Windows Shell gives full access to their file structure, individual files, and provides expected functionality: for example it creates JPEG previews, allows compression/expansion of individual files, and so on.

I also checked XPlorer2, Q-Dir and FreeCommander XE. It is my understanding that at least XPlorer2 does not use standard Windows Shell (not sure about the other two). All mounted tablets and cameras storage properly.

I found your statement "Windows does not assign a drive letter to it, it is not a storage device" to be incorrect. Windows Explorer shows under "Computer" the following groups of devices:
* Hard Disk Drives
* Devices With Removable Storage
* Portable Devices

Fact that no letter drives are assigned to the "Portable Devices" group does not mean that Win handles them as "non storage devices". All file manipulations and specific storage device command appear to be working just fine, reporting of free/available space is correct, formatting from Win shell is allowed, etc.

While I appreciate that you find Windows Shell to be inferior and flawed, I would like to respectfully point out that when tablets, phones or cameras are connected to Win computer it is actually the Multi Commander which "does not always show the truth", thus is flawed. I appreciate time and work you put in the MC, I appreciate that you offer it free, but, before being hyper critical about standard Windows Shell, perhaps some reality check would be good? There are many common scenarios (for example: transferring files from a camera, copying files to tablets, etc) where the MC fails to deliver, and the "inferior" Windows Explorer delivers without a glitch.

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Hi,
When I connect my camera (Canon EOS, connects using USB) to PC (Win 7) I can, as expected, see the camera's SD card and copy/move/rename, etc, all files on the SD card. Multi Commander does not recognize the camera, does not show anything. I tried to refresh, restart the Multi Commander, no change. I also tried different USB ports (USB 2 and USB 3), and two different PCs running Win 7 and Win 8, the same result.

Windows Explorer has no problem. For testing I also tried another tool, FreeCommander XE, also works as expected, it can see the SD card and manipulate files.

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Support and Feedback / Re: Delete Selected Folder in Tree
« on: March 12, 2014, 13:53:28 »
ice-man: If I want to go up two levels in the filesystem I just reach the mouse and position the mouse pointer correct and click. I do not have to press the backspace key twice.

Seriously, operating Windows without a mouse, people really do that ?

Mathias (Author): thank you for your fast and comprehensive response. The problem is that just about EVERY file manager I am aware of, including free tools created by single developers, allows to delete a folder in tree view. I appreciate that "MC is not build using the slow Windows Shell interface that a lot of others are using", but I would like to bring to your attention that there do exist file managers NOT based on the Win shell which allow a folder deletion in tree view.

As it happens I am software developer myself. I am risking being rude here, so please accept my apologies, as this is not my intention: what I see here is simply not finished, and not elegant. This is not beta, this is rel. 4.1. maybe FAQ should have a section: not yet implemented features you may expect to see, but they are not here yet? Are there any more?

On positive note: great tool, and I appreciate that you invested a lot of your time in creating it, and you released it free, for this you have my well deserved respect.

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Support and Feedback / Re: Delete Selected Folder in Tree
« on: March 11, 2014, 22:25:34 »
With respect, this is very poor answer. It is very unusual to find such basic and commonly implemented option missing in a file manager. There is also GUI problem: selecting a folder in tree view does not disable a button "Delete (F8)" and popup help "Delete files of folders" is still present.

Windows Explorer allows this, other two tools I am currently evaluating: XYPlorer and FreeCommander XE also allow this operation. I may be wrong, but from memory I do not remember any other file manager (and I used many) which would have such basic flaw.

Why is it not implemented? The product appears to be mature (ver. 4.1). Some better explanation is needed here. Is it going to be fixed? This is definitely NOT a feature or a logical design decision, it is crippling lack of basic functionality commonly implemented in other similar tools.

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