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nathan_never:
Hi,
Great program, slowly taking over from my other file manager (Q-Dir). I am finding new features everyday. Now for queries;
- I have supercopier as my default copier. All other file managers I have used, allows it. But when I use multicommander, it insists on using its own internal copier. Is there a setting to change this. Also on drag-drop, supercopier menu options never appear in multicommander.
- In list view, when I scroll horizontally, it skips panels in between and tries to go to the last panel and back to the first panel, so that I miss seeing the files in the middle panels. I took me sometime to understand this and gave me many anxious moments thinking that I have accidentally deleted the files in the skipped panels. (OK, seemed to have solved this. The culprit seems to the mouse scroller program "Katmouse", I have set it to scroll 3 lines per wheel scroll. But in other file managers, this never caused problems.)
- Is it possible to implement flat folder view option? Many times I would like to view combined files view in selected folders (2-5). Though I can use the find files options to view files in all the subfolders, I would like to view files only in selected folders.
- Is it possible to show the folder size, and the number of files and folders in it, automatically on selecting it? Now I find that I have to press the <space> key to show it and it shows only the folder size and not the number of files and folders within it.
- Is it possible to use the <tab> key to navigate between the 4 panes (1st tree pane -> 1st file pane -> 2nd tree pane -> 2nd file pane)?
- Is it possible to have single tree pane for both the file panes? This will increase the real estate available for the files view.

Thanks for patiently hearing my whining. Since I am still exploring the gold mine, I might have missed the already existing options. If so sorry for the unnecessary post and kindly point me in the right direction.

Mathias (Author):

--- Quote from: nathan_never on August 31, 2014, 05:01:49 ---- I have supercopier as my default copier. All other file managers I have used, allows it. But when I use multicommander, it insists on using its own internal copier. Is there a setting to change this. Also on drag-drop, supercopier menu options never appear in multicommander.

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You might be able to use it via script. Not sure how it is accessed.
The Context Menu is built by Windows API so it should be shown. But if you run 64bit version of MC make sure that the Shell Extension also is 64bit.


--- Quote from: nathan_never on August 31, 2014, 05:01:49 ---- In list view, when I scroll horizontally, it skips panels in between and tries to go to the last panel and back to the first panel, so that I miss seeing the files in the middle panels. I took me sometime to understand this and gave me many anxious moments thinking that I have accidentally deleted the files in the skipped panels. (OK, seemed to have solved this. The culprit seems to the mouse scroller program "Katmouse", I have set it to scroll 3 lines per wheel scroll. But in other file managers, this never caused problems.)

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"panels  in between" ? not sure what you mean.  You mean it scrolls to much horizontal ?. Not sure how "katmouse" hook it self into a process but i assume it send scroll horz command. So not sure why it should send to many.. If I get some time for it I will try katmouse and see if I can reproduce  it


--- Quote from: nathan_never on August 31, 2014, 05:01:49 ---- Is it possible to implement flat folder view option? Many times I would like to view combined files view in selected folders (2-5). Though I can use the find files options to view files in all the subfolders, I would like to view files only in selected folders.

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I been planning something like that. But it is not an easy fix since a lot of commands in the Explorer Panel require that the current path of the item is the parent path of the item.. Showing multiple levels of items in a normal explorer panel results in all kind of strange issue.. But I got it on my list but it require lots of works to make it work.


--- Quote from: nathan_never on August 31, 2014, 05:01:49 ---- Is it possible to show the folder size, and the number of files and folders in it, automatically on selecting it? Now I find that I have to press the <space> key to show it and it shows only the folder size and not the number of files and folders within it.

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The first part might be possible to add. But including addiontal information into the size column will not be possible. Maybe as extra column fields that can be added.


--- Quote from: nathan_never on August 31, 2014, 05:01:49 ---- Is it possible to use the <tab> key to navigate between the 4 panes (1st tree pane -> 1st file pane -> 2nd tree pane -> 2nd file pane)?

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Well that is not possible. There is not 4 main panels (Looks like it but technically there is only two). Each "Panel" is its own instance of an application.
And a instance of the Explorer Panel is shown in a main panel (Or search is another, and sfv tool another, and settings another.) 
The Folder Tree inside the the Explorer panel.
You can toggle focus from the folder tree and the filelist with Alt+Num/ (can be redefined)


--- Quote from: nathan_never on August 31, 2014, 05:01:49 ---- Is it possible to have single tree pane for both the file panes? This will increase the real estate available for the files view.

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No.. because of reason above.. The FolderTree is owned by the Explorer Panel. and there is a tight connection between the Tree and FileList.
If you click on a folder then the filelist is updated. If the tree was global what filelist should it then update. and there are some other cases where the Tree interact with the filelist that would not be easy or clear how that would work.
But there are minor plans to test have a separate tree that are not connected to the explorer panel. But not sure if that will work well.

nathan_never:
re: Supercopier;
it registers a dll and makes itself the default copier, so that whenever a copy/paste command is used either with mouse or keyboard it is automatically activated and takes up the copy-paste function.

re: horizontal scrolling;
yes, it scrolls too much skipping the "panels" or columns of files  in between. Now that I have changed the setting in katmouse to move just by 1 line per scroll, the horizontal scroll works normal, but the per line scrolling in firefox is painful.

re: flat folder;
thanks for considering it.

re: folder size;
I meant "to show it in the status bar", not in details column. This feature is found in Q-dir and is very useful when navigating using list view. I have attached an image to further explain my request.

re: <tab> key for navigation;
thanks for the explanation. Will try your alternated method.

re: single tree pane;
thanks for the explanation.

Mathias (Author):

--- Quote from: nathan_never on September 02, 2014, 03:13:46 ---re: Supercopier;
it registers a dll and makes itself the default copier, so that whenever a copy/paste command is used either with mouse or keyboard it is automatically activated and takes up the copy-paste function.

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If you do copy Paste  Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V or Select Copy/Paste from context menu. Then windows will handle the copy and MC has no control at all.
and if that program is hooked into window it should do what it does.


--- Quote from: nathan_never on September 02, 2014, 03:13:46 ---re: folder size;
I meant "to show it in the status bar", not in details column. This feature is found in Q-dir and is very useful when navigating using list view. I have attached an image to further explain my request.

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Ahh statusbar.. yes something is panned but not for the app status bar.

nathan_never:

--- Quote ---If you do copy Paste  Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V or Select Copy/Paste from context menu. Then windows will handle the copy and MC has no control at all. and if that program is hooked into window it should do what it does.
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The problem is, it doesn't do it only in MC. Also in right drag-drop actions other file managers show supercopier options but MC doesn't show it. I have attached the screen grabs showing the right drag-drop context menus in MC and other file manager. Maybe I'm missing some advanced settings in MC? Hopefully someone using both supercopier and MC can enlighten me.


--- Quote ---Ahh statusbar.. yes something is panned but not for the app status bar.
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Too bad. Can only hope that it can be implemented in future versions.

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