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Using Quick Keys.
Alanrf:
I'm using the Explorer style of MC.
I guess I must be doing something wrong, or have forgotten some elementary rule, (if so, I apologise in advance), but I am trying, for example, to use a short-cut to make a quick copy.
In this case, the option on the File menu shows
Copy (Quick)
which I understand to mean that the letter "Q" can be used as the quick key. However, this does not seem to work.
I have tried it in combination with other keys, (Ctrl, Alt, Shift) with no effect.
Can it be done?
Mathias (Author):
No the underscore is not a shortcut. The Underscore is a menu shortcut when navigating the menus using keys. pressing Left ALT Key and focus is set to Menu bar.. then you navigate the manu bar with arrow keys or press the underscore key to jump to that menu command.
ShortCuts keys are shown after the command. To the right Like F5, Shift+F5 and so on.
If a command does not have a shortcut set, It can often (not always) be configured in Menu > Configuration >Keyboard customization
Alanrf:
It does seem counter-intuitive.
Using Windows Explorer the underline is not used at all; some menu choices offer a short cut, (quick key), and others do not. There is no risk of confusion. For example, to make a copy of something, open the Edit menu, highlight the item and you can then use either the direct menu option, Copy or the short cut Ctrl+C
Where the underline is used, in Firefox for example, if you open the File menu you could press V to invoke the print preview page with no further intervention. You could also, after marking some content on a page, open the Edit menu and press C, rather than the short-cut Ctrl+C, and the marked section is copied to the clipboard with no further intervention.
I fully understand that Alt+F would open the File menu, Alt+C would open the configuration menu and so on, but my confusion is based upon the use of the underlined key within a given menu.
For example, once the File Menu is open there are a number of options with a key letter underlined:
New, Tab, View File, ... Copy, Copy(Quick) and so on.
What is the purpose of using the underline convention within a menu if, in fact, no action is invoked. That is really the source of my confusion.
Mathias (Author):
--- Quote from: Alanrf on January 13, 2016, 13:44:01 ---It does seem counter-intuitive.
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It is standard windows behavior.
open notepad and see. They have them too,
--- Quote from: Alanrf on January 13, 2016, 13:44:01 ---Using Windows Explorer the underline is not used at all; some menu choices offer a short cut, (quick key), and others do not. There is no risk of confusion. For example, to make a copy of something, open the Edit menu, highlight the item and you can then use either the direct menu option, Copy or the short cut Ctrl+C
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They are. but depending on what platform you are own. you need to press and release alt first to make them visible.
They are not shortcut they are actually called access keys. https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/bb226831(v=vs.85).aspx
They are not a replacement for shortcuts. Shortcuts are completely differently and global. Access keys are to make navigation by keys in menu easier and you can have duplicates as long as they are in different menus.
--- Quote from: Alanrf on January 13, 2016, 13:44:01 ---Where the underline is used, in Firefox for example, if you open the File menu you could press V to invoke the print preview page with no further intervention. You could also, after marking some content on a page, open the Edit menu and press C, rather than the short-cut Ctrl+C, and the marked section is copied to the clipboard with no further intervention.
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Sometimes you can have the same access key as shortcut .. sometimes you don't.
--- Quote from: Alanrf on January 13, 2016, 13:44:01 ---I fully understand that Alt+F would open the File menu, Alt+C would open the configuration menu and so on, but my confusion is based upon the use of the underlined key within a given menu.
For example, once the File Menu is open there are a number of options with a key letter underlined:
New, Tab, View File, ... Copy, Copy(Quick) and so on.
What is the purpose of using the underline convention within a menu if, in fact, no action is invoked. That is really the source of my confusion.
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No Alt+F do not open file menu.. Alt and then F. (It is actually a difference.. because you 'can' press alt and release the alt key and then press F)
That is all standard windows behavior
The underline key will run that command if you are quick navigating to it from the keyboard.. like if you do Alt then F then F the find files command is run.
Alanrf:
Thank you for your very fast response!
Apologies for using the incorrect terminology for Access keys; thank you for the correction.
Referring to the menubars. I tend to configure them to be visible; I should have clarified that point.
You wrote ... "No Alt+F do not open file menu.. Alt and then F. (It is actually a difference.. because you 'can' press alt and release the alt key and then press F) That is all standard windows behavior"
Actually, you can use either strategy. Alt+F opens the file menu, but so does Alt then F
However, your final comment is the most useful and resolves the original query for me.
You wrote "The underline key will run that command if you are quick navigating to it from the keyboard.. like if you do Alt then F then F the find files command is run."
Either of the following actions invokes the Quick Copy feature:
Alt then F then Q
or
Alt+F+Q
Thank you for your courtesy and patience in responding in detail.
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