Author Topic: internal picture viewer is missing  (Read 1943 times)

dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
internal picture viewer is missing
« on: December 06, 2024, 23:44:11 »
Hi guys

i just simply miss the internal picture viewer - with which i wish to zoom in/out, rotate images, resize ...just some simple stuff...
this should be as extension right? but i dont see such extension...

only i have on hand is "preview tab" which just shows the image but nothing else

...guess what ...im saaad   :'(

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2024, 01:09:45 »
Yes it is an extension. But it is not its own things. It is integrated as a "viewer" in MC and is the "default" viewer for pictures..  (Configurable in FileType setup > view )

To view pictures..  Just press the View command.

Menu > File > View , or
View button on the button bar.. or
"View" button on the toolbar (next to the music note icon) or
F3 / F1 (depending on setup)
or right click and under "MultiCommander" in context menu select View



dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2024, 10:35:32 »
OK...so I did exactly, but just binary code of picture in multidataviewer is shown

i tried to manage file types association to change it to internal viewer but there is no viewer to choose :-(

see pictures

my version of MC is x64  14.4 (build 3047)
« Last Edit: December 17, 2024, 10:51:02 by dech »

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2024, 11:45:42 »
You should have MCPictureViewer in the list and by default there should be a couple of items there.
Check the Extension/Plugin Manager under configuration and see if it is listed there. If not then you have a bad install.

dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2024, 11:56:11 »
i have these - see pictures

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2024, 14:36:48 »
Strang.. "Picture Tools" and "MCPictureViewer" is missing.
You can try to run the Update tool and select "Force" in settings..  Or reinstall.

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2024, 20:57:26 »
Also what Windows version are you running ?

dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2024, 08:44:42 »
i have forced update - no change

i have downgraded to v 14.1  (build 3017) - now i see the extensions
and also i see , in file type setup, the MC picture viewer

but still nothing happens when i "View" button on the toolbar (next to the music note icon) or
F3 / F1 (depending on setup)

i have win 8.1 Pro   64bit

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2024, 09:16:40 »
Might be that something in the new PictureViewer is using something that Win8 does not support. I will check (  14.1 is using the old picture viewer, and is not depended on Windows)

config look correct. But hard to see from screen shots.
When downgrade.. did you do a full reinstall ? Does it work in portable package out of box without configuration ?

Not sure why View does not work for you. any error in the log windows (Ctrl+L) ?

« Last Edit: December 18, 2024, 09:18:43 by Mathias (Author) »

dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2024, 10:00:40 »
downgrade - i downloaded the  installation file and install it , without uninstalling previous version  ...so it overwrited the higher ver.

portable ver. 14.4  behaves same way as the installed - in extension plugin manager are the "Picture Tools" and "MCPictureViewer" missing

log is in attachement  - after hitting F1 or "View" button on the toolbar (next to the music note icon) on image - no error  (now ver 14.1)
« Last Edit: December 18, 2024, 10:02:23 by dech »

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2024, 10:03:02 »
downgrade - i downloaded the  installation file and install it , without uninstalling previous version  ...so it overwrited the higher ver.

portable ver. 14.4  behaves same way as the installed - in extension plugin manager are the "Picture Tools" and "MCPictureViewer" missing

log is in attachement  - no error  (now ver 14.1)
Sorry I meant portable for 14.1 or 14.2, The new picture viewer was added in 14.3 We already establish that the new picture viewer does not work on Windows 8.
If that work then it is a configuration issue

« Last Edit: December 18, 2024, 10:05:38 by Mathias (Author) »

dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2024, 11:06:08 »
WOW
in portable 14.2 it WORKS  :)  ...eeee what is the conclusion?  :)  is there way it can work in last version...for me on win8 ?

btw...as i see you are the maker himself  8) ...now-when the VIEW works - i see that the viewer is not made as i supposed it will be -
1) could you please add some simple tools like zoom/rotation (not edit image file but just adjust the view on the file ) to the PREVIEW tab ?
like you have for PDF files (well rotation is missing there too - this would be there appreciated too)

2) is there way how to hide the info panel below image/pdf file - it takes space - the less is for image/pdf

see picture

Mathias (Author)

  • Administrator
  • VIP Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4492
    • View Profile
    • Multi Commander
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2024, 11:13:51 »
So then it is a configuration issue in your downgraded 14.1. 
Configuration for installed version is stored at C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\MultiCommander\Config\
if you can try to delete just FileTypes.xml. and se if that help. else you might need to delete them all.

Look like the new picture viewer in 14.3 does not like Win8.. might be an easy fix, maybe. There will be a new beta for 14.5 today that does something to one win8 issue I found.. but there might be more, Im not sure.
I don't have a machine with that old OS so I cant fully test that.

1) No MC has no control over how the preview of PDF looks like..  It uses the Preview Handler that are install into the Windows Shell (Windows Explorer) MC has no control of the button inside it. It can all depends on what preview handler for PDF is installed.

2) You can edit the Preview template in Menu > Configuration > Preview Customization.. However I recommend to backup the DataPreviewTemplates.xml file first. since it is very easy to mess up the templates
and for PDF it is the "Windows Preview Handler" that needs to be modified. This also changes the template for all other format that are handled and shown by the Windows Preview Handlers. (pdf , ms office documents)
« Last Edit: December 18, 2024, 11:15:41 by Mathias (Author) »

dech

  • Newbie
  • *
  • Posts: 7
    • View Profile
Re: internal picture viewer is missing
« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2024, 12:05:12 »
so i have deleted the FileTypes.xml  and it works (viewer - F1 button)!  ver 14.2.  x64  (installed ver, not portable)

i will check later the 1) 2) issues

thank you for support