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This has become more of an issue these days because of the proliferation of SSDs. Basically windows attempts to resolve mapped drives only once, and if the computer boots too fast, it will try it before networking is initialized. This leads to the network drive being there, but windows does not see it until you try to access it via explorer. It looks like http://imgur.com/a/WPi3n.

The problem is that the mapped drive (Y:\ in the image) is invisible as far as multicommander is concerned. You can't navigate to it, it does not show up in the drive list, you can't manually type in the drive letter to go to it. As soon as you physically open it in explorer, multicommander can then see it, but the whole point of multicommander is that it replaces explorer.

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Yes. The Windows Explorer emulation is not 100%
The Keyboard and mouse setup is prioritizing Commander Styled setup and then after that it tries to emulate Windows Explorer.
But it will not be 100% the same since it caused collisions in how the two works.

If you really want to work with keyboard then Command Styled setup is so much more powerful then WinExplorer style.

fair enough, it's by design is an acceptable answer, but is there any way to enable this functionality for explorer? I am comfortable with explorer (and don't get to use multicommander on many machines I use), so switching back and forth between file behavior dynamics will screw up my muscle memory.

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A bug I have noticed is present in regards to selecting items via keyboard. In explorer, if you hold down the control key, you can border highlight other items using the arrow keys. You can then add (or remove) that highlighted item to the selection using the spacebar.

the border highlight


selecting with spacebar


Holding down control and using the up/down arrow keys doesn't appear to work in multicommander. Some people might consider this a feature suggestion, but this functionality has been around since the xp days for explorer, and I would think is a core component of any explorer gui.

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I don't know what happens if you fiddle with the UAC settings. Win7/Win8 might do different things there. But the default on how window security works is the same.

If you disable UAC then everything is run as admin and that can be dangerous.

Don't see why you need bat to exe stuff for elevating a process. It is built into windows.
enabled "run as admin" on the program shortcut you want to run as admin

or if the program in on the taskbar.. hold shift+ctrl when clicking on it.

Convenience really. You're not wrong. I have basically set up a portable (write protected) drive that has most of the tools I need to fix a computer. Majority of those tools require administrative access, and I have also heavily customized multicommander to launch those tools based on keyboard shortcut or file extension.

The idea is, I can launch multicommander, and launch a range of sub-processes as I need based on what I want to do (remove programs, clean viruses, fix windows settings, etc.). This all works by being packed in a compressed 7zip file and launching, basically like hiren's disc did back in the day.

What I like to do is extract and launch multicommander from an external drive, and have multicommander extract and launch programs based on scripts I've made. The way I use multicommander, I assume that I have administrative access. Launching MC from administrative prompt is irritating when you are fixing, say, 6 computers at a time. Especially when you have to do it every time you restart a computer (which may be 5-10 times per fix). The way I have it set up now, I have the custom exe I made launch MC from admin access every time the computer boots. If I had to do that manually from explorer, I would be doing it 20 times a day. Now I have it set up to do it automatically. It would be nice if that function was built in, but I found a workable alternative.

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It works the same in 7 and 8. There is no difference. But depending on security setup and configuration of Windows things might act different.

The Auto Run as admin thing is that it will launch a helper process as admin when the admin task is needed. You will then see a UAC dialog and than the Admin Helper process will start, It will stay active for a while before going away. So if a admin task is needed again a UAC dialog is not shown since the admin helper process is already running. (You see in the statusbar of the program is the admin process is active )

If you want to run MC as admin sometimes you can from start a new MC from MC under Menu > File > New > "Multi Commander (As Admin)"
Or right click and select run as admin on the MC icon.

If you always want to run it as admin you need to modify the shortcut properties for MC, advanced button in the shortcut properties and check "run as administrator"

When MC run as admin you see "[Admin]" on the title bar.

Fair enough, I probably just didn't notice that on windows 7 since I usually have UAC disabled.

Windows 7 and windows 8 handle UAC differently. Basically, on 7, if you turn the slider down, you always have administrative rights. It doesn't have to poll for it.

In windows 8, if you turn the slider down, everything still runs as a local user. If something happens to require admin access, at that point it gets elevated without a prompt. I have found though that sometimes windows 8 doesn't elevate a program silently properly, which is probably where I am having trouble.

Anyway, I've gotten around it by using Bat to Exe Converter, with a short bat that starts up multicommander. You can use that program to force elevated access, and any subprocess launched will also have permanent admin rights.

Understandably, there's reasons why a person might not want constant admin access to a computer. Generally I'm using this program either on computers I maintain myself (on computers I regularly backup), or ones I am fixing (and need admin rights anyway).

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I have multicommander set to automatically run as administrator in the core settings, which works fine in windows 7. In windows 8, it does not automatically prompt for administrator, nor gives admin rights. On some occasions, multicommander *might* retry as administrator (like deleting a file it doesn't have permission to delete). However, I need multicommander to always have admin rights, as I launch subprocesses from multicommander which don't have the rights they need (like partition wizard for example).

Note that I don't appear to have this issue with windows 7, I think it is 8 specific.

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Feature Requests and Suggestions / Choose drive by label
« on: April 13, 2015, 05:21:05 »
A feature I would like to see is to type in a drive label into the command bar and have it go to that drive (or at least the first instance of that label). Sometimes, especially when I have multiple USB drives plugged in and virtual drives open, I could have 10-15 drive letters in use. It's a pain to have to sift through them to find the partition I want to deal with. being able to type in the label would be very helpful.

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I don't know if this is a bug or by design, but clicking in the white space after an object (like after the name when a column is too wide) doesn't behave like clicking on the object. For example, if I click in the middle of the column after the name it will select the object, but I can't drag the object. More annoying is if I turn on double clicking in white space to go to the parent, it will behave the same way with the in line whitespace. This leads to situations where I'll try to open a file and end up going back a folder instead. Is there a fix for this?

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