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Started by Mathias (Author), May 26, 2022, 16:41:21

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Pawel

Mathias,
Could you please improve displaying Multi Commander window on first run?
On my monitor (2k, 2560x1440) main window is NOT centered.

The window is moved to top and left.
Also, would be nice if window has some proportinal size (now, it is much wider). Take a look at screenshot.

Best regards,
-Pawel
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Pawel

Mathias,
Hover Data Functionality.

It looks promising... However, did you think about implementing such feature, like Total Commander Lister?
User select element in one panel and all related information is displayed in second panel (different information for different file type/content). Something what you did in "Hover Data".
"Lister" is better, as it can be shown imediately and can show much more info (Panel window is bigger)...

How do you think?
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Mathias (Author)

Quote from: Pawel on June 08, 2022, 10:41:03
Mathias,
Hover Data Functionality.

It looks promising... However, did you think about implementing such feature, like Total Commander Lister?
User select element in one panel and all related information is displayed in second panel (different information for different file type/content). Something what you did in "Hover Data".
"Lister" is better, as it can be shown imediately and can show much more info (Panel window is bigger)...

How do you think?
No idea what "lister" is. Is "lister" not just the fielist ? or Is it something like a preview panel ?

Pawel

It is something like "Preview Panel". In Total Commander it is displayed in external window, but can be also displayed in Panel (like on my screenshots).
In TC it can be extended by plugins...

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Mathias (Author)

Quote from: Pawel on June 08, 2022, 19:19:31
It is something like "Preview Panel". In Total Commander it is displayed in external window, but can be also displayed in Panel (like on my screenshots).
In TC it can be extended by plugins...
So Review panel, yes that is coming.. Hover Preview is like 90% of it but it is shown in a hover window instead of own panel.   It comes as hover window first since that is what I find more useful.
Showing it in a preview panel comes later.

User_99

#30
Nice update.
Can we get more space for all text in hover window?
Sometimes the text is cut off. See attachments please.
Update: FIXED, Thx

For me PDF files are shown in an empty preview window...

Mathias (Author)

Quote from: User_99 on June 11, 2022, 18:47:38
Nice update.
Can we get more space for all text in hover window?
Sometimes the text is cut off. See attachments please.

For me PDF files are shown in an empty preview window...

It should use defined default margin in the templates now. so there should be some more space

Strange that PDF is not working for you. Do you have 3rd party PDF reader installed ? maybe they installs therir own preview handler..
Thing is that MC have almost no control at all over the Windows Preview Handler, the API for that is very basic.


AlanJB

#32
Win7 Pro x64.  MC Portable.

I just installed build 2879 and all "Last Modified Date" columns are completely empty: all tabs, including new tabs.

See attached.

Neither restarting MC nor refreshing the view makes any difference.

Mathias (Author)

Quote from: AlanJB on June 17, 2022, 15:47:45
Win7 Pro x64.  MC Portable.

I just installed build 2879 and all "Last Modified Date" columns are completely empty: all tabs, including new tabs.

See attached.

Neither restarting MC nor refreshing the view makes any difference.
Strange.. I'm not able to reproduce that. try 2880 just released.. but I don't think there is any change around that there,

Mathias (Author)

Quote from: AlanJB on June 17, 2022, 15:47:45
Win7 Pro x64.  MC Portable.

I just installed build 2879 and all "Last Modified Date" columns are completely empty: all tabs, including new tabs.

See attached.

Neither restarting MC nor refreshing the view makes any difference.

The columns used saved in columnsets.xml . That is the "id" for the "Last Modified" column you have..

AlanJB

#35
From columnsets.xml, the relevant row is:

Quote<column id="0CC970781498A4EF9AA7139DA448F5744.datemodify" name="Last Modified " options="197632" width="94" paddingleft="0" paddingright="2" align="2" flags="0"/>

Edit to add:  this row is identical to my "live" config

Mathias (Author)

Quote from: AlanJB on June 17, 2022, 16:06:16
From columnsets.xml, the relevant row is:

Quote<column id="0CC970781498A4EF9AA7139DA448F5744.datemodify" name="Last Modified " options="197632" width="94" paddingleft="0" paddingright="2" align="2" flags="0"/>

Edit to add:  this row is identical to my "live" config
Looks correct, Strange..

AlanJB

No change with build 2880.  Installed through MultiUpdate.

I even copied my "live" columnsets.xml to my "test" installation and still no-go :(

Mathias (Author)

Quote from: AlanJB on June 17, 2022, 16:32:06
No change with build 2880.  Installed through MultiUpdate.

I even copied my "live" columnsets.xml to my "test" installation and still no-go :(
I can't make it fail. strange. will check more about it tomorrow.

AlanJB

Quote from: Mathias (Author) on June 17, 2022, 16:43:45
Quote from: AlanJB on June 17, 2022, 16:32:06
No change with build 2880.  Installed through MultiUpdate.

I even copied my "live" columnsets.xml to my "test" installation and still no-go :(
I can't make it fail. strange. will check more about it tomorrow.

OK.  Thanks Mathias.

Jean

Hi Mathias,

I reverted to the non beta. Everytime mc got focus, from alt-tab and back for instance, it created a new tab on C: on the right side. After a while, i had several extra c: tabs.

Mathias (Author)

#41
Quote from: Jean on June 17, 2022, 19:51:21
Hi Mathias,

I reverted to the non beta. Everytime mc got focus, from alt-tab and back for instance, it created a new tab on C: on the right side. After a while, i had several extra c: tabs.
Strange, nothing about tabs has changed. I'm not able to reproduce that.
Probably some settings or combo of settings you have around tabs or something are causing that.. Problem is that I cant find what that can be.?
Have you changed customized any settings around tabs?

Jean

I tried the beta again, it works ok now, if it doesn't anymore, i'll come screaming. :)

AlanJB

Quote from: Mathias (Author) on June 17, 2022, 16:43:45
I can't make it fail. strange. will check more about it tomorrow.

Follow-up to this problem:

I deleted my test environment completely
Copied my (working) complete live environment to a separate physical drive
Launched the new test environment and checked for updates
It updated to build 2880 and...

No modified Dates  :(

Mathias (Author)

#44
Quote from: AlanJB on June 18, 2022, 17:16:36
Quote from: Mathias (Author) on June 17, 2022, 16:43:45
I can't make it fail. strange. will check more about it tomorrow.

Follow-up to this problem:

I deleted my test environment completely
Copied my (working) complete live environment to a separate physical drive
Launched the new test environment and checked for updates
It updated to build 2880 and...

No modified Dates  :(
Strange, I cannot reproduce that, I tried to change to different date/time settings that are in MC.. But it works.
Most be some conflicting settings or something. But can't reproduce it.. very strange

Also normal 'date' column is Last Modified date.. they should match on normal NTFS filesystems.

AlanJB

Quote from: Mathias (Author) on June 19, 2022, 11:18:46
Also normal 'date' column is Last Modified date.. they should match on normal NTFS filesystems.

Well, on a whim, I replaced column "Extended - Date Modified" with "Standard - Date" and it worked!  All dates populated.

Go figure :o

User_99

#46
Thx for the new Beta :)

When I interrupt the unpacking process - eg. click on "Cancel" for a password protected archiv, I get the following message. Click on "OK" shows this message again. Sometimes three times.

Timur Born

#47
Quote from: Mathias (Author) on June 17, 2022, 12:50:17
Quote from: User_99 on June 11, 2022, 18:47:38
For me PDF files are shown in an empty preview window...
Strange that PDF is not working for you. Do you have 3rd party PDF reader installed ? maybe they installs therir own preview handler..
Thing is that MC have almost no control at all over the Windows Preview Handler, the API for that is very basic.
MC shows an empty preview window when a third party reader is installed as preview handler. I tried Acrobat and Xchange Editor. The default handler (on W11) is Edge, but that one is both slow and unstable.

User_99

#48
Thx for the new Beta :)
Quote from: User_99 on July 03, 2022, 10:24:03
When I interrupt the unpacking process - eg. click on "Cancel" for a password protected archiv, I get the following message. Click on "OK" shows this message again. Sometimes three times.
Tested with latest beta and bug is already there.

Update: It works for first time. When I cancel the operation again, the message pop up three times.

Lukasz S.

Hi, there is some issue with refresh of folders view on MC start in newest beta 2888.

When I start MC there are no folder icons, see picture 1. After for example refresh or go in and out to any folder, folder icons are refreshed picture 2.

There is still some bug with showing correct keyboard shortcut for rename F2 and make folder F7 command - picture 3. Anyway shortcuts are working OK, only visualisation is wrong.
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Lukasz S.