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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #25 on: Yesterday at 08:41:28 »
To summarize, these are the 4 issues that remain (the rest I found a way to resolve):
(1) Color Rules Editor is broken, when adding a new rule, it is actually the parent Color Rule with its text populated in the Edit Name box, so a new Color Rule isn't interactable or generated (and cannot be edited or selectable.) (Only trick is to create 2 Rules consecutively (a duplicate copy of a new rule), then one of them will be functional.)
(2) When creating a new Column Layout, the 'File Header Column' gets reset and unsorted on next launch — doesn't remember which column to sort by, if I only use "[Default]" Column Layout then it works, but I can't make use of custom paths with "Valid for all future paths."
(3) Cannot create a Shortcut to Ctrl+PageUp or Ctrl+PageDown in the new "Keyboard Customization" dialog, the added entry shows "Ctrl + " that is, the PageDown/ PageUp text is invisible & not shown/ omitted in the list.
(4) Keyboard Customization dialog should be shorter in height so it fits on 1366x768 resolution laptop screens. (Minor glitch)
(5) Optional: Make the File Column Header right-clickable menu launch when "Mouse" (in the "Quick Look And Feel" settings) is specified as "Windows Explorer" as well, and not just "Commander Style" "Mouse" behavior (I can confirm it doesn't work on "Windows Explorer" "Mouse", only works on "Commander Style" "Mouse").

1. Is this not same as with V16 ? Then it is an error for that release.
2. Is this not same as with V16 ? Then it is an error for that release. (But not sure I understand this error)
3. Works for me. So not sure why you can't assign it
4. Dialog layout already fixed
5. default Right click handling for list items should not be used over header area. . Already fixed.

Issue #1
I assure you, in V16, when you Add a New Color Rule, it adds an "Empty - No Color Rules Defined" entry, with an *Empty* "Rule Name" field, and the Rules are Empty (as expected), but in V17, it populates the "Rule Name" (inherits the parents, and any modifications are applied to the parent, not the Newly created Empty Rule !) Also the rules are from the parent Color Rule. It's not defining a New generated Rule, it's linked/ refers to the orginal Rule and cannot be selected/ edited ! (See screenshots) As a solution, instead of Duplicating the Color Rules, you could have a separate New Rule button ?! Though it would be easier to just fix this erratic behavior. The cheap workaround is to make a second duplicate Color Rule, then modify that 'cause that's truly an Empty Rule.

Issue #2
When you right-click the "File Column Header" there is "Customize Columns" in that dialog if you create a New Layout (with custom fields, custom paths C:\ D:\ with "Valid For Future Paths" checked, and when relaunching MC, the previously Sorted Column is not activated, it's like the Sorting Column is reset (the little triangle) (I set mine to "Date Descending", but then it becomes unsorted and I have to click on the the "Date Descending" sorting column again to restore the config. If I use the "[Default]" Column Layout, not a new custom one, it remembers the Sorting, but I prefer to make new Custom Layouts in "Customize Columns" dialog.

Issue #3
"Page Up" & "Page Down" text is hidden when making shortcuts to it in Keyboard Customization dialog and they don't work, I don't know why. I'am using Win 10. I'll re-check if there's another issue with maybe my AutoHotkey scripts or something. I'll be able to test it better when the Dialog is resized, so we'll deal with this minor issue later maybe.

Thank you for fixing Issues 4 and 5 ! :D The first 2 are nasty bugs hampering from making full use of MC, would like them addressed please. :( Maybe someone else can confirm these ? I have tested them on a new V17 fresh copy, the bugs are inherent.

P.S: Included my Column Layouts file (ColumnSets.XML) for you to confirm that making a new Column Layout breaks the Sorted Column from being preserved across re-launches of MC, If I had stuck to the "[Default]" Column Layout and deleted the "My Advanced Tweaks" it would remember the Sorted Column again !
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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #26 on: Yesterday at 09:39:16 »
1. Okey only in 17 then. I though I saw the issue in v16 but might be refresh issue of UI list controller

2. This is actually same issue in V16 But since the issue is that the Fileview does not support this, by designed. since autoload columns happens async. it has already loaded the default. and that column did not exists. so it fallsback to name column.
Since the entire fileview was rewrttien in V17.. if this is fixed,. it will be in v17 only,

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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #27 on: Yesterday at 10:04:52 »
1. Okey only in 17 then. I though I saw the issue in v16 but might be refresh issue of UI list controller

2. This is actually same issue in V16 But since the issue is that the Fileview does not support this, by designed. since autoload columns happens async. it has already loaded the default. and that column did not exists. so it fallsback to name column.
Since the entire fileview was rewrttien in V17.. if this is fixed,. it will be in v17 only,

Interesting… That makes sense, thank you for addressing my concerns, Mathias ! :) Yeah I understand, I'll be migrating to V17…
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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #28 on: Yesterday at 14:53:11 »
I just noticed this now, in V17, the "Date Created" File Column displays nothing ! It's an empty field throughout —it works fine in V16.2 ! Is this a known bug ?!
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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #29 on: Yesterday at 14:58:26 »
I just noticed this now, in V17, the "Date Created" File Column displays nothing ! It's an empty field throughout —it works fine in V16.2 ! Is this a known bug ?!

Column "Extended - Date Created" ?
Works for me. Strange..

You path say thumbstick. is that is usb stick mounted into a path ?  does it happens only under that path or everywhere ?

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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #30 on: Yesterday at 15:11:28 »
I just noticed this now, in V17, the "Date Created" File Column displays nothing ! It's an empty field throughout —it works fine in V16.2 ! Is this a known bug ?!

Column "Extended - Date Created" ?
Works for me. Strange..

You path say thumbstick. is that is usb stick mounted into a path ?  does it happens only under that path or everywhere ?

Yes, "Extended - Date Created" And no it's a local harddrive folder, not a USB Drive (I use it to store temporarily for transferring files to my USB Drive.) It happens everywhere. Even in a fresh copy of MC V17. (updated the screenshots)
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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #31 on: Today at 05:03:07 »
Thought I might also bring these to your attention:
  • V16 shows a Color Picker popup (in Core Settings > Colors) but V17 goes straight to the Color dialog, if this is a design choice then ignore.
  • I found some other hotkeys using Page Up and Page Down to also be invisible/ hidden in the "Keyboard Customization" dialog !
  • Like the "Keyboard Customization" dialog that you resized, the "Folder Settings" dialog is also slightly lying out of the screen (might want to fix that as well.)
  • My File Header Column is buggy again, could be because I made a "User-Defined Script" to autorun (command-line parameter) to make the Left Panel 100% long, or could be because I manually edited the ColumnSets.xml and made some changes (renamed it to Default I don't know. But fixing the File Column Header (and Layouts) would be a big step up !
There was another minor coloring glitch but I omitted it for now: in V16 for instance I have (in Core Settings > Colors tab) Settings Panel > Tab > textcolor as "Button Text" ("Windows Standard Colors" option) which is black (correctly) but on V17 it shows "Button Text" text color as Gray/ White.
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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #32 on: Today at 09:55:22 »
lets wait until next preview and see what stills applies..  lots around this are already changed so some of it is probably not valid anymore. See if I can put out a updated preview tonight
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Re: MC V17 Early Access PREVIEW
« Reply #33 on: Today at 10:55:27 »
lets wait until next preview and see what stills applies..  lots around this are already changed so some of it is probably not valid anymore. See if I can put out a updated preview tonight

Sounds good !
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